How to connect Reaktor/grooveboxes/massive to Nuendo?

dunainau
dunainau Member Posts: 4 Newcomer
edited October 2024 in Reaktor

I can see the signal, I can hear the sound but it's impossible to recrd it. Neither MIDI nor audio channel Yhanks

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  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,136 mod
    edited July 2024 Answer ✓

    Yeah in cubase that's unfortunately not that easy to record audio from instruments live. You can print it or you use a free tool like melda production MRecorder, you insert it after the instrument and you can record your live performance or whatever. Them import the audio into cubase as a WAV file Or like greg shows here, but it, of course, depends also on the instrument and if it has it's own sequencer:

  • dunainau
    dunainau Member Posts: 4 Newcomer
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    Thanks. I'll try

  • Studiowaves
    Studiowaves Member Posts: 648 Pro
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    I don't have Nuendo but I'm quite sure Reaktor is a vst plugin, one would think it could be inserted like any other vst plugin. Maybe that's all there is to it.

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,136 mod
    edited July 2024 Answer ✓

    Absolutely - but at least in cubase, there is no record from vst instrument function at least not that easy, you can of course bounce in place

  • Studiowaves
    Studiowaves Member Posts: 648 Pro
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    That really doesn't sound right. Cubase, Nuendo, etc. all have individual track that record in real time. The vst is not designed to be recorded on. It's the track that does that. There's no need to bounce recordings around if all you want is your vst to process the recording. Just use a track that's designed to record something, whether it be audio, midi, or anything else that can be recorded Then simply, plug the vst effect into the tracks plugin chain. If you like, put the vst into the master channels plugins. Then any track will be processed by the vst. These daw's are almost always some type of matrix. I'm sure Cubase or Nuendo both all you to connect almost anything from any track to somethings else. One thing most of them do is try to avoid output feeds back to the input. Doing that can cause positive feedback and create a howel like you've never heard before. I mean a massage lion roar. LOL Well, talk later, hope I'm not talking what you already know. If so, no biggie, at least you can say your as smart as I am but I wouldn't do that if I were you, because I'm not to smart. lol haha have fun!

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,136 mod
    edited July 2024 Answer ✓

    Yes Cubase has a freeze function. The idea behind recording directly into audio is for some people, that they turn knobs on a virtual synth play it and record it directly as wave - I personally don't use it (I record as midi) but I can understand that some want to do that, and for some reaktor generative instruments it makes even sense to me.

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  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,136 mod
    edited July 2024 Answer ✓

    Yeah in cubase that's unfortunately not that easy to record audio from instruments live. You can print it or you use a free tool like melda production MRecorder, you insert it after the instrument and you can record your live performance or whatever. Them import the audio into cubase as a WAV file Or like greg shows here, but it, of course, depends also on the instrument and if it has it's own sequencer:

  • dunainau
    dunainau Member Posts: 4 Newcomer
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    Thanks. I'll try

  • Studiowaves
    Studiowaves Member Posts: 648 Pro
    Answer ✓

    I don't have Nuendo but I'm quite sure Reaktor is a vst plugin, one would think it could be inserted like any other vst plugin. Maybe that's all there is to it.

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,136 mod
    edited July 2024 Answer ✓

    Absolutely - but at least in cubase, there is no record from vst instrument function at least not that easy, you can of course bounce in place

  • Studiowaves
    Studiowaves Member Posts: 648 Pro
    Answer ✓

    That really doesn't sound right. Cubase, Nuendo, etc. all have individual track that record in real time. The vst is not designed to be recorded on. It's the track that does that. There's no need to bounce recordings around if all you want is your vst to process the recording. Just use a track that's designed to record something, whether it be audio, midi, or anything else that can be recorded Then simply, plug the vst effect into the tracks plugin chain. If you like, put the vst into the master channels plugins. Then any track will be processed by the vst. These daw's are almost always some type of matrix. I'm sure Cubase or Nuendo both all you to connect almost anything from any track to somethings else. One thing most of them do is try to avoid output feeds back to the input. Doing that can cause positive feedback and create a howel like you've never heard before. I mean a massage lion roar. LOL Well, talk later, hope I'm not talking what you already know. If so, no biggie, at least you can say your as smart as I am but I wouldn't do that if I were you, because I'm not to smart. lol haha have fun!

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,136 mod
    edited July 2024

    You can believe me or not - I am a cubase user and you can't simply record a vst instrument as audio like with other daws, you have to use some workarounds if you want to - and yes that's stupid, in reaper, for example, it's absolutely easy to do that

  • Studiowaves
    Studiowaves Member Posts: 648 Pro

    OH, your talking about VSTI , the instrument, not VST the effects plugin. OK, yes now I see. You're correct, that's exactly what happens. The only way around it is to freeze the track into audio or send that tracks output to the input of another track and record it as a wave file. I'd check and see if you can freeze a track, that actually does convert the vsti and all of the track effects into a wave file. Click around on the track and see if there's a freeze function. I wouldn't doubt Cubase even tells you where it's recording the track. That is your recording of the vsti right there. Not having a freeze to track function is probably unheard of nowadays. That's how to handle it. Later

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,136 mod
    edited July 2024 Answer ✓

    Yes Cubase has a freeze function. The idea behind recording directly into audio is for some people, that they turn knobs on a virtual synth play it and record it directly as wave - I personally don't use it (I record as midi) but I can understand that some want to do that, and for some reaktor generative instruments it makes even sense to me.

  • dunainau
    dunainau Member Posts: 4 Newcomer

    Hi! Thanks to all of you. I found an explanation of this kind of recording here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRA4DIzEc_4&t=162s

  • dunainau
    dunainau Member Posts: 4 Newcomer

    Hi! Thanks to all of you. I found an explanation of this here

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRA4DIzEc_4&t=162s

  • Studiowaves
    Studiowaves Member Posts: 648 Pro

    That's a pretty old fashioned way of doing things. Turn controllers while you record the synth. Nowadays most daws have lanes for automation among other things like recording the controllers as midi on the midi track with the VSTI. Then you can audition it and tweak it before you mix it down into a wave file. I like the daws that let you overdub the midi during recording and store the overdub as a sub track under the other midi records. That way you only need one vsti track and don't need to send midi info from another track to the vsti track. I never did like the idea of having a single recordable track that merges all of the midi together, I prefer to have separate sub tracks for each controller. That keeps things tidy, easily recognizable and easy editable. As an example, have the midi volume on one, the pitch wheel on another and so on.

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,136 mod

    Absolutely - that's why I don't use it but as I said, there are cases where it makes sense, like with generative reaktor instruments.

  • Studiowaves
    Studiowaves Member Posts: 648 Pro

    Not that it matters but what do you mean by not using it. What don't you use?

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,136 mod
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