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This is a really annoying thing with u-he. Using the new Dark Zebra, i converted 4 non-factory banks, by using the VST3 version. All done very fast and with tags, thumbs up for this, but......
1- ALL the files went to the factory folder, without been separated by bank and worst, without previews.
2- Even though i used the VST3 version, they do not work! They still need the VST2 version... What is the point of this, i don't understand... They put so much effort and do so much good work (the only plugin i think with native nksf conversion), but the result is rather disappointing.
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There are things you need to do to avoid most of this.
1) Create your bank first in the u-he browser by dragging the patches onto the bank tag (same way you create tags)
2) Setup the default u-he NKS folder so you can put each bank exported in its own folder. What I do is temp rename the Zebra2/HZ NKS folder by putting an x in the name then create an empty folder named Zebra2/HZ so when Zebra exports the bank they go in there instead. Then simply rename that folder with your bank name and when done revert the NKS factory folder to its original name. This way you can then either keep them in factory in separate banks or move them to user.
3) u-he plugins do migrate so in the absence of the VST2 they should load in the VST3 (or on M1 Mac) but by default they use the VST2.
4) Diva, Hive and Repro also have NKS export, other than u-he the only other plugins I know if that have this are bx Oberhausen and Knifonium. None of them create previews unfortunately but there are ways to create them manually. I’ve just created a load myself so tell me which ones you need previews for and if I have them I can share them.
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1-2) This make sense indeed, i should have thought of rename the folder! Thanks
3) No they don't on Zebra case! i don't have Diva and Hive... and i did tried many times. Every time that i remove the VST2 .dll fro the vst folder, Maschine refuses to load them... "Plugin can not be found", even if the VST3 version is always in the default vst3 folder. So, maybe this migrate-update is for Mac only so far?
4) It would be nice to have the previews, yes, if you have those specific 4 banks (Triple Spiral Audio - Aporia, Empty Fields, Pagan I & Pagan II). If not, i can live without them too 🙂
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OK they are migrating for me in Zebra 2 and HZ - maybe that is Mac only but I doubt it. I had to rescan all my plugins after running both the Maschine and KK updates, then the u-he updates so maybe try that?
I should have done this ages ago - there is no reason why we can't share previews for commercial banks even if it would not be right to share the presets so I have created a Previews folder in the user library and will upload those I have, I encourage everyone here to do the same. I have created a read me in the root with suggested format.
Just posted a load of Zebra 2 previews - some of these were created by myself and some shared by Christos Adamos but I can't remember which so I have just uploaded them all - I feel sure he won't mind
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Yep, migration is only for Mac. I'm not sure why Lars would only do Mac, but I'm sure there are reasons.
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That's odd - especially as it seems to work for the others. Maybe because it's only really absolutely necessary right now on Mac and Zebra 3 is in development?
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Preview folder - so far just u-he but I have others to post later
Posted what I have for Hive now too - again some I created myself but not all are for banks I have personally (yet) - some are previews made by others including Christos that I have just collected in case I picked up the banks at some point, apologies if I can't recall everyone but thanks to all contributors
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Hello, I don't quite understand the point of distributing your previews without the corresponding *.nksf files ?
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Because we are not going to get into sharing commercial nksf banks as it would basically be like giving away someone else's products and therefore illegal. However people can save their own nksf patches using Komplete Kontrol (one by one) and some plugins, including all NKS compatible u-he plugins, bx Oberhausen and Knifonium, can batch export their own nksf files, but not the previews. So this is a way of enabling people to get hold of those to save them the effort of creating their own (which is also possible but time consuming without automation)
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A compromising solution between the last 2 comments could be to share nksf for free banks... since they are free...
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Yes absolutely, I have done that on occasion, although usually as a matter of courtesy I ask permission from the person who made it where possible. In relation to sharing previews though I think we are safe and given they can be a chore to create sharing those we have made seems a good idea.
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My nksf and previews are generated by third party software. I don't see where the problem is. More over, it is open source software that generates them. And I give a boost to NI to democratize its product... So I don't think it's illegal. sorry for my bad English
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What NKS and previews are you referring to? What you make for your own use is up to you, we are discussing what is ok to share on this forum, NKS copies of commercial patches without the authors consent would not be, no matter what software was used to generate it.
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I will try to explain:
It is not about the software you use of course but about the banks themselves. If you use a free bank, its ok for me, but, if you use a commercial bank and then you share those nksf, i can use your files without actually buy that bank. This is because the plugin recognize all the values as if i already have the presets. Then, i can save those presets as plugin format (in our case as .h2p files) and voila! I suddenly have the commercial bank, without actually buy it. THIS, is the illegal part, not your conversion itself.
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