Please help me with a category error
I am a relative but not complete newbie, and have gotten my head around Access, Kontakt and Komplete Kontrol and been building tracks in Logic using various combinations of stuff from Komplete packs.
When it came to the drums in particular I felt that pads rather than keys was the way to go to lay down tracks. So I watched a bunch of How To videos about Maschine and then bough a MK3.
Turns out that the packs with a grid of lozenges logo (such as Backyard Jams and Elastic Thump, London Grit etc) can be loaded via Maschine's Browser and from the get go the patterns can be played and interacted with on the pads. Also the instruments appear in Bank A of the pads and can be individually triggered and played and then shifted over to Keyboard and Chords modes if required. All good.
But I wanted to use Butch Vig and Abbey Road etc and these seem problematic. Classified as Instruments rather than Groups, they behave very differently. Loading for example AR 60's Drummer> Early Soul for example, gives me just one active pad, bottom left, which plays one kick. Pressing Play doesn't play a pattern and using the Keyboard and Chords modes gives me access to individual kit instruments on the pads, and I can use Octave up and down to access more.
With Battery, if I load for example 41st Kit I get one sound on one pad and that then maps with no pitch change to all pads in Keyboard and Chords Mode.
With Butch Vig> Candyassed I get a pattern on the bottom left pad in pads mode and then individual instruments in Keyboard and Chords mode. Same sort of thing with Drum Lab. The synths in for eg Analog Dreams behave just like this too.
I can find no references in the manuals for the drum products for Maschine and there are one or two articles online showing how people have successfully midi mapped certain drum instruments to the pads but it seems you can't get the patterns into Maschine in the same way you can when you load one of the 'lozenge logo' Sound kits.
Which to me seems to be a) not what I expected (my bad but pretty easy mistake to make IMHO) and b) not the 'intuitive' that NI claims NI to be.
Where am I going wrong? Is it so crazy to expect what is basically a souped up drum machine to play drums kits and patterns?
I am - as you can see - extremely confused. And that was before I googled 'using Maschine with Logic' to find the the two barely know each other and have to be quite intricately introduced before they get along. And there was me thinking that they'd be tightly integrated like Logic and my S88 are.
SO now TBH Maschine is kind of a Delphic brick on my desk.
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