Kontakt 8 : Big problem with NKS instruments migrated from Kontakt 7

Emmanuel Rousseau
Emmanuel Rousseau Member Posts: 10 Member
in Kontakt

Hi,

So I successfully migrated my big Cubase orchestral template from K7 to K8, but noticed a very problematic issue.

This Cubase template relies of enabling and disabling tracks, to make them active in the project and save ressources. I immediately noticed the "disabling time" went significantly longer with K8, with a lot of different sample libraries. Actually, I think all my NKS compatible libraries are suffering from this, to various degrees. No difference at all on non-NKS libraries.

For instance, disabling the track "Trumpet 2" from Berlin Brass (yes, Kontakt version) is about 1-2 seconds in K7, but more than 20 seconds with K8.

Here is the catch : if I rebuild this "Trumpet 2" patch from scratch in K8, I'm back to much faster enabling/disabling times (going from 20 seconds to less than 1 second, so a huge difference).

So my guess is that those tracks migrated from previous Kontakt instances suffer from some kind of background scanning.

Please, NI, could you have a look and see if you can confirm this ? This is 100% reproducible in my case - and I'm wondering if this is also connected to the "long project saving time" issue which has been also reported on the forum.

I really hope I don't have to rebuild this whole template…again :)

Cheers,
Emmanuel

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  • Tim_NI
    Tim_NI Product Team Posts: 54 mod

    Thanks for your post. We have a handful of cases now and are looking into it. It seems to be specific to VST at the moment, but we will of course also check AU and AAX (which will have auto-migrate soon).

    Best,

    Tim

  • Emmanuel Rousseau
    Emmanuel Rousseau Member Posts: 10 Member

    Thank you @Tim_NI !

  • GRPMusic
    GRPMusic Member Posts: 2 Member

    Hey @Tim_NI ,


    just to let you know that I also have that exact issue with Kontakt 8.
    Thanks for looking into it!

  • Rick Balentine
    Rick Balentine Member Posts: 5 Member

    Following - thank you guys for this

  • Emmanuel Rousseau
    Emmanuel Rousseau Member Posts: 10 Member

    Hey @Tim_NI
    Another observation of what is probably the same problem :
    If an K8 instrumented track migrated from K7 has Cubase Quick Controls (for managing microphone positions on the said Kontakt instrument, for instance), disabling and re-enabling the track in Cubase loses the quick control assignations.
    Same operation with a "true" K8 instrument works as expected.

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