East West OPUS KOMPLETE NKS

I recently purchased EastWest Hollywood strings which uses the OPUS interface. According to EastWest they have submitted the NKS for OPUS to Native Instruments about 3-4 weeks ago for approval. Currently however only the EastWest "Play" NKS is available, which significantly limits its capabilities . When can we expect NI to approve the EastWest OPUS NKS support?

I have a very nice investment in the NI ecosystem to include Komplete 14 collectors edition, S88 MK2, A25, and Machine MK3. Would really love to see my EW Opus be a integral part. Thanks NI, happy holidays

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Jeremy_NI

@Edenorchestra There's still work to be done on this one, as there are 96 products in OPUS, I reached out to our NKS department, they said it will not happen before 4 weeks, at least. Please understand that it's not a definitive date, it's merely an estimation. For more information please contact EastWest.

Edenorchestra

Thanks Jeremy, I appreciate your response. At least I know you are in concert with what EastWest has told me. Glad NI is working on it. My experience with NI has been nothing but positive.

Edenorchestra

I'm going to possibly eat crow, but I checked EW and it looks like NI approved their OPUS NKS support, loading it now. https://www.soundsonline.com/support/updates. scroll down to "NKS Support for Opus" and load the installer per your OS.

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Edenorchestra

good comments guys!

Fiddleman

Any update on NI support for EW Opus? I just got a NI S61 keyboard, and was truly hoping that it integrated with EW sample libraries. I can see by this thread that the error message stating that it cannot load EW Play libraries, and that no OPUS libraries show up in the selection menu on the keyboard is an artifact of the combination that NI both does not support OPUS libraries, and that PLAY libraries don't run on Apple silicon. This is very disappointing, and I hope that the original estimate of four weeks to support these libraries (made back in December) is close to Komplete! Please update this thread if there is more information or an ETA. Thanks.

Jeremy_NI

@Fiddleman Please contact East West to learn more about their NKS features and their implementation.

Fiddleman

Thanks for the response, Jeremy.

I have contacted East West. Here are my questions and East West's response:

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-----Original Message-----

From: Mark Indictor

Sent: 5/16/2023

Subject: Native Instruments NKS Compatibility for Opus, and Apple Silicon Compatibility for Play

Hello,

I am using Native Instruments' Komplete Kontrol. It appears that Opus instruments are not NKS compatible, however some of the Play libraries show up in Komplete Kontrol and play snippets of the samples, but they cannot load. Here is an example of the message it displays:

"EW Silk could not be loaded, as it may not yet support Apple Silicon or VST2 to VST3 migration. Please contact the plug-in manufacturer for more information."

If I load Komplete Kontrol in Rosetta, Play instruments will load and play, but the scanner app crashed many times while Komplete Kontrol rescanned my plug-ins.

QUESTIONS:

1) Is Opus compatible with NKS, and if not, is NKS compatibility planned for Opus in the future, and if so, is there an estimate of when it will be?

2) Play seems to be NKS compatible, but only when running under Rosetta. Is Apple Silicon support planned for Play instruments, or only Opus?

I highly prefer EastWest samples, but this compatibility issue is making it difficult. I really like Native Instruments' Komplete Kontrol's interface, but I REALLY do not want to run under Rosetta and I REALLY want to use the Opus library's samples.

Thank you for any advice or information you can provide.

Best Regards,

-mark

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Hey Mark,

Play will never be M1 native. NKS Support for Opus is planned in the future - we've been waiting on Native Instruments to make an update to their NKS support build software so we can make Opus fully NKS compatible, but we've also been waiting on that for over a year so I can't speak as to exactly when that will be, but hopefully sooner rather than later.

For now you will have to continue using that in Rosetta until that's updated.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Best,

Michael

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So, Jeremy, I am sending this question back to Native Instruments... When does NI expect to fully support East West Opus with NKS compatibility?

Thanks again for your reply.

Best regards,

-mark

Jeremy_NI

@Fiddleman This is I got from the NKS team: they are in the final stages of approving the NKS compliance for all Opus products, it should become public in the next few weeks, there is around 100 products in total.

There is a VST3 SDK that EW have access to and used, the NKS 1.6 SDK has been out for a few weeks, and has full VST3 support

Edenorchestra

Thanks Jeremy

Fiddleman

Thanks for the update, Jeremy! Looking forward to it!

ebber

I just found out running the latest Opus 1.3.7 in Komplete Kontrol (Native under Apple Silicon) gives me working light guide for EW Symphonic Orchestra :)

however only when I load Opus in KK manually and choose the presets inside of Opus.

The NKS presets still bring up the "EW Symphonic Orchestra Strings could not be loaded, as it may not yet support Apple Silicon or VST2 to VST3 migration."

Kymeia

Yes that’s to be expected - the plugin itself is compatible with Apple Silicon but it’s not yet able to migrate NKS made with the VST2 to VST3

Asteny

Hello !

I have just bought the NI KK S61 and wonder if Hollywood OPUS is now compatible with it, as we're now in june 2023 and people can fly with VR and you can get a piece of art with just one prompt to an AI :)

It is a big deal as either i go full NI orchestral instruments, but i prefer going full East West because i prefer their sounds... I won't use my S61 just as a basic midi controller lol

Thanks in advance for anyone giving any update about this big deal subject :)

Edenorchestra

NI has been dragging this process out for over a year now . . same issue here . . its just a shame you market this whole NKS support issue to attract buyers, but don't come through, its so annoying, and lacks integrity and NI's image.

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Griswold3

HOLY CRAP! I just figured let me see if anything has changed with my EastWest libraries and KK so I downloaded & ran the latest EastWest_NKS_Support_Opus. Man, this is a game-changer!

I now have NKS functionality for every library I've tried so far Including previews inside of the Opus browser. There are preset mappings and it appears that light guides are working!

I am using the S61 keyboard & it is such a joy to cycle through every library's presets & flag my favorites. No more crashes & no more errors loading EW libraries, even the older ones.

Thanks to everyone involved who made this happen. I know there was an enormous amount of work involved.

Cheers,

Larry

Edenorchestra

Just a follow up, loaded the new NKS support and OPUS works like a charm inside Komplete Kontrol. You do loose the PLAY functionality, but no love lost there.

zacmarkey

when I run the NKS Support software, it totally clears out my existing NKS thumbnails and even resets my Komplete Kontrol 3rd party library locations. happened twice. super annoying to then have to delete the folders and let it rebuild itself (which takes like an hour each time).

anyone else? opened a ticket with EastWest.

wish we could even just have access to the files and put them in the right directories ourselves.

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