NI - Is there a technical reason why we can't save, or view Multis in KK?

Vagus · 2022-09-24T12:52:37+00:00

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Hey @Matt_NI I know everyone on the forum wants to save layered presets, with multi-instruments and FX, and that really is a dream of the future.

With that said, is there a technical reason why we can't view, load, or save Kontakt Multis in KK? As the .nksn format is a contrainer to load a state within KK, why is this not possible?

Ultimately, NKS/Player libraries in KK aren't showing all possible presets because of this, and for the life of me, I can't think of a code-based reason why this isn't possible.

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Brad Yost

AFAIK, KK was designed to operate as a hardware extension wrapper for a SINGLE NKS instrument.

However, if you load Kontakt into KK and then load or create a Multi instrument rack, it can be saved as a preset in KK or in Kontakt as a multi. But only the first instance will be operable from the HW/SW interface using the smart controls. You can get the Kontakt virtual keyboard to reflect the particular instrument in the rack by highlighting the instance header in orange, but that doesn't allow multiple keyboard layers or splits to work unless you're in MIDI mode on the HW in my experience.

KK actually has a very tiny footprint and I run DAW templates with up to 80+ instances wrapping NKS instruments without issues.

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trusampler

In the meantime, there's a few options that I've found that work well for layering / creating Multi's while in Komplete Kontrol.

New Sonic Arts Freestyle

Plugin Guru Unify

Kore 2

Peter Harris

Agreed!

PluginGuru's Unify especially can create incredible multi's and so much more from all NI and any other plugins. It's the best $79 I've ever spent and vastly expands the abilities of KK/M with midi fx, patch/voice cycling, randomization of pitch and any CC parameters, and so much more, all with negligible processor overhead. Their programming and sound design expertise is really mind-blowing and upgrades NI products with so many features that have been requested for ages.

https://www.pluginguru.com/products/unify-standard/

mbg

Use Unify...

Peter Harris

Nice to see another Unify fan here! 👍

Freestyle is new to me though so thanks for that suggestion. I'll be doing a deep dive on it today. Very intriguing that it is created by a NI Maschine designer/developer. Looks like the evolution of KK and Reaktor? 🙂

Kymeia

Freestyle 1.7.(RC) is now out which brings full VST3 support and Kore-style snapshot morphing (by the developer originally responsible for Kore 2 and Maschine) - well worth a look - I use it inside and alongside KK to do things you just can't do in KK

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