Komplete Start, Kontakt, VST plugins... which? where?

I haven't used any of the Cremona Quartet instruments in a while and realized recently that NI updated them and made them unusable in version 6 of the Kontakt Plug-in, which is the version I purchased them with. They now require Kontakt 7, which is apparently no longer available.

I checked out the Komplete Start Getting Started pages and noticed that, after downloading and registering, the Kontakt 7 plug-in is shown being loaded into one's DAW. Cool! So I registered that and now see Kontakt 7 in Native Access 2. Great! However, it doesn't install a plug-in, only the Player, which is useless to me. Same with Kontakt 8. No plug-in. Useless.

Is NI really saying they've purposely updated my previously purchased Quartet products, such that they're no longer usable unless I spend $$$ on a new version of Kontakt??

Also, when I install Ozone EQ that comes with Komplete Start, Native Access 2 completely ignores my Application location settings and places it in C:\Program Files\… When I try to access the EQ plug-in from my DAW, naturally, it's not found, and it doesn't seem to matter which directory I add to the VST Search Path and then re-scan, the EQ plug-in is not found.

Clearly I'm missing something here. What, exactly, is the deal with all this?

TIA,

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mykejb

On Windows it installs into the standard VST3 path which from memory is C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3. Check there to see if the Ozone EQ plugin is present.

PK The DJ

Unlike previous VST versions, VST3 uses a standard directory, into which all VST3 plugins install.

From Steinberg:

"The VST3 format has a dedicated installation path all VST3 plug-ins must comply with. All your VST3 plug-ins should be installed here: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3"

Because of this rule, Native Access does not allow the user to set the directory for VST3

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mykejb

You can download previous versions of the Cremona instruments from your account here - https://www.native-instruments.com/en/account/downloads/

Which DAW are you using? The Ozone EQ should be added into the standard plugin paths so it should be picked up as a plugin. It's only VST3 so if you don't have VST3 enabled (eg in Ableton) you won't see it.

UserZero

Thanks very much for the link! I'm using Reaper, and it's running other VST3s, so…?? Not sure what Native Access 2 thinks is 'the standard plugin path' - I haven't been able to find it. Not sure I understand why this changed from Native Access 1, where I could specify my plug-in directory.

mykejb

On Windows it installs into the standard VST3 path which from memory is C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3. Check there to see if the Ozone EQ plugin is present.

PK The DJ

Unlike previous VST versions, VST3 uses a standard directory, into which all VST3 plugins install.

From Steinberg:

"The VST3 format has a dedicated installation path all VST3 plug-ins must comply with. All your VST3 plug-ins should be installed here: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3"

Because of this rule, Native Access does not allow the user to set the directory for VST3

UserZero

Many thanks to both of you kind folks for pointing out what I was missing. Everything's cleaned up now, switched over to primarily scanning the Common Files area, eliminated duplicates I had accumulated from previous installs aimed at my custom location.

Also, in case anyone else bumps into this issue and lands here, there's another location that contains Kontakt 6-compatible updaters. In my case, I was able to run the Cremona Quartet 1.20 installers from there and they apparently just 'downgraded' the 1.3 versions I had. Didn't have to download the enormous ISO files to re-install.

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/21349/previous-versions-of-recently-updated-kontakt-libraries-compatibility-with-k6-older-libraries/p1?new=1

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