Way to set values to unity?

babble.catalog

On the Kontrol Mk3 keyboards, is there a way to set a value to unity easily? Especially in DAW mode.

So say I change the volume of something, and I want to bring is back to 0, or - even more useful - I am changing the pan and decide I don't like it, and want to bring it back to center. Is there any simple way to do this?

JesterMgee

Nope.

Isuse is that different plugins have differing values for where "unity" is for a parameter. Pan for instance in some plugins may be -64 for left and +64 for right or 0 left and 100 right. KK has no real clue what is what and where "unity" should be.

Not sure about the new V3 software but in KK V2 using the on-screen display of the controls you CAN double click the control and it sets it centered. That's about it.

One (of MANY) suggestions I submitted before I realised NI don't consider user suggestions at all was along this line where it would be great that upon loading a NKS file the value of all parameters was stored in memory as the default for the preset so you could tweak any control but if you wanted to return to default for that preset, hold SHIFT + double tap the control and it would return to the value when you loaded the preset.

That would 100% be possible but never likely to ever be a thing.

babble.catalog

Weird. I feel like most other DAW controllers are able to do this. And I just mean in DAW mode, it should be pretty simple as there is only Volume and Pan — and the software obviously knows where 0db and C pan is as it already has the integration . . .

JesterMgee

So you are talking about the DAW controls (in some kind of unmentioned DAW) not NKS plugin control?

That should be something more easier since there is usually a control script with better access to parameters, but no idea since I use Ableton Live with both a Push and an MCU which have far better control for this kind of thing than the KK keyboard, but based on the lackluster functionality that is included in KK for this kind of thing, I would say it's not possible.

babble.catalog

Cubase/Nuendo, yes.

NKS plugin control would be nice too, but I could see how it would be harder to implement, and its not as important to me

DunedinDragon

I would kind of think this sort of thing would be pretty tough in order to get the proper signal levels consistent across all DAWs as they seem to vary a lot in the way they process the signals in my experience. Generally I'm only concerned with getting a relatively useful level coming into my DAW because there are most likely going to be other things added to that track for getting the signal to some form of unity level and appropriate mix across the entire project, all of which are controlled much more easily and visually within the DAW.

babble.catalog

I get what you're saying, but I mean, wanting to get back to unity volume and pan is a pretty standard thing. And KontrolMk3 already has integration with most DAWs. Plus, unity in terms of volume is pretty standard, its really only panning where things can get weird I guess.

But I think wanting to bring faders to unity is a pretty standard thing.

babble.catalog

It really isn't complicated — maybe you think I'm describing something else.
The Mk3 keyboards (and I believe previous versions) already have integration with most DAWs where it knows where 0db and Center pan are. If they didn't know that, we wouldn't be able to adjust them back to 0 or Center in DAW mode. A unity function would literally just bring the fader back to 0 or the pan back to Center. There's nothing complicated or tough about that