Komplete Kontrol missing 3rd party libraries

tokenboomer · 2023-12-04T14:45:23+00:00

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The latest version of Komplete Kontrol, as installed by Native Access, does not appear to be showing 3rd party NKS instruments like those from u-he, Arturia, ect. Mostly it appears to be showing NI instruments or 3rd-party instruments made for Kontakt playback. What am I missing?

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Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/113354#Comment_113354

U-he and Arturia NKS won’t be installed through Native Access, you need to install them using Arturia software centre and the u-he plugin installers respectively- and make sure you choose custom install to install the NKS resources, then rescan the Komplete Kontrol database

If you are using Komplete Kontrol 3 you really should be using the VST3 versions as KK3 doesn’t even add the VST2 path by default, and if you are on Mac, VST2 is also no longer supported

Kymeia

If you only see user NKS it sounds like you have not installed the factory NKS content for those synths. Check out those folders I mentioned

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Kymeia

What do you mean by 'only available in the user area with reduced functionality'? So can you see NKS patches then? Did you install them in the way I suggested?

I don't think the problem is 3.03 per se, it works fine with u-he plugins for me, I think it's that it has forced you to go from VST2 to VST3 and I don't think you have installed everything that is needed yet. Reinstalling with custom install and NKS and VST3 selected should work.

Kymeia

Can you check if the NKS are actually installed - maybe start with Diva as we know that works well in KK3

Go to /Library/Application Support/u-he/Diva/NKS/Diva

What is in that folder?

Same for Pigments go to:

/Library/Arturia/Pigments/Third Party/Native Instruments/presets

What is in that folder?

tokenboomer

I'll use u-he's Zebra2 as an example. Previously Zebra2 appeared as an instrument under the "synths" category on the main GUI as well as the "user" GUI. Zebra2 is an NKS instrument and has patch previews so, from the main GUI, I could preview patches and favorite those I liked which in the case of this synth I did a lot. As of Komplete Kontrol 3.0.3 that utility is gone and now I can only access Zebra2 from the user area. Not only is this true but all of the patches I marked as favorites when Zebra2 was visible on the main GUI are gone. Not only is this true but the patches I marked as favorites while in the "user" area are there but no longer have previews. That's true of all the other u-he instruments I have including Diva and Hive2.

I have similar problems with Arturia instruments like the NKS version of Pigments. In fact the only 3rd party NKS instrument I have that shows up now in the main GUI and isn't a library for Kontakt 7 is Spitfire Audio's BBC Orchestra Core. It uses Spitfire Audio's own playback plugin rather than Kontakt 7. Why it maintained its place on the main GUI while all the others were relegated to the "user" section I have no idea. By "reduced" functionality what I mean is things like favorites no longer playing previews even though the previews are installed on the system. I can play those patches back with previews if I chose that same patch from the instrument list and not the favorite list. The favorites list is mute which makes it pretty useless.

Kymeia

If you only see user NKS it sounds like you have not installed the factory NKS content for those synths. Check out those folders I mentioned

BIF

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/113391#Comment_113391

Ummm....I've had ASC doing silent installs for over a year now. I "think" all of my Arturia instruments show up in KK 3. So I am confused about this.

(Windows 11 for my question above)

Matthew_NI

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If properly installed, u-He and Arturia products are fully compatible with Komplete Kontrol 3.

I have included screenshots as I'm having a hard time following the description your providing and if we could move to images that might be useful.

If you open KK 3.0.3, and you're in the browser, are you saying you do not see these products? Note that for ease, in each screenshot, I filtered by manufacturer.

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/114038#Comment_114038

That's fine, silent installs is only a problem if the first time the installers ran, which isn't silent the first time as you select install options on the first run, the person did not realise they needed to select custom install/third party content, because every install after that uses the same options

Copirate

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/114092#Comment_114092

Hello Matthew and Happy new year. Did you test it on Windows 10 ? It does not show off on my side.

Nicholas Bean

I am so sick of Native Instruments

Everything will be working just fine and then all of a sudden out of nowhere all my libraries disapear.EVen though not a single thing has changed or moved. I reinstall everything through Native Access and now all my 3rd party libraries are missing. This Company is a joke!

DirtyJawa

I am having the same problem as the original poster. I'm having this problem on two totally different Windows computers, and the 3rd party plugins missing on each are different.

I have Plogue Chipsounds, U-He Zebra 2, and Synapse Dune 3 all properly installed with the last version as VST3 on both computers. These are all factory NKS 3rd partyPresets with the NKS content installed.

On my Desktop PC (Windows 10), I had Komplete Kontrol 2 and it recognized all 3rd party brands NKS presets.

I just downloaded Komplete Kontrol 3, and it scanned. It only added Synapse Dune 3 3rd party plugins to factory view, but it did add the locations to Plogue and U-he in the Factory locations.

On my laptop (Windows 11), I have the same software installed with VST3 and NKS presets. It ONLY finds Plogue products and displays Plogue in the Factory sounds. It does not find Synapse or u-He, even though I can manually find the files. Stranger still, when I click ReScan, it acts like it finished scanning only after 1 second. It basically blinks and is ready to rescan.

I find it hard to believe that Komplete Kontrol scanned my 600 GB of data that quickly, when my desktop took 5 minutes to find all of the factory locations during its scan.

Kymeia

I don't think u-he plugins support migration from the VST2 NKS to VST3 NKS yet on Windows, except maybe for Diva. Not sure if it's the same for Synapse although I would be surprised if it is.

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