play the samples at different notes in Battery 4

MrDoIt
MrDoIt Member Posts: 7 Member
edited October 2024 in Battery 4

Apparently I am a complete noob. When I scroll through the different expansions I have for Battery 4, I hear a lot of very cool kits. When I open them, however I am unable to "play the samples at different notes". Shouldn't I be able to take any of the samples and play them at any note? Example. I open "Angel Kit" and want to play "vocal angel" into multiple notes or even something as simple as making sure my kicks or bass are in key? How do i change these samples into different notes?

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  • Brad Yost
    Brad Yost Member Posts: 354 Pro
    edited June 2023 Answer ✓

    Not exactly sure what your query is but;

    In "Angel Kit" the sound 'Kick Angel 1' is only assigned to the MIDI note range C-2 to C1 (may be a different octave on your keyboard), 'Kick Angel 2' is only assigned to MIDI note C#1, 'Snare Angel 1' is only assigned to MIDI note D1, etc.

    If you want to change the 'tuning' of any particular drum hit, notice the <Tune> knob just above the key range as shown.

    The last cell in the kit (Synth[140] G# Angel MSV) in this case will extend from it's first assigned note to the top of the keyboard (MIDI notes D#2 to G8).

    ALL Battery kits operate in this manner.

    If you wanted to take a tuned sample (ie: Vocal Angel, assigned to MIDI note C#2) and have it pitched to multiple notes on a scale, you would have to have that same sample loaded into multiple cells in Battery with each one assigned to a different MIDI note, and EACH sample cell pitched to your desired scale.

    [For example the Vocal Angel one shot sample is (on my machine) located in F:\NI Libraries\Lazer Dice\Samples\One Shots\Vocal\Vocal Angel.wav]

    That is probably not a subject for a new user at this time, but it is all covered in the operation manual for Battery 4. https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/drums/battery-4/downloads/

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  • Brad Yost
    Brad Yost Member Posts: 354 Pro
    edited June 2023 Answer ✓

    Not exactly sure what your query is but;

    In "Angel Kit" the sound 'Kick Angel 1' is only assigned to the MIDI note range C-2 to C1 (may be a different octave on your keyboard), 'Kick Angel 2' is only assigned to MIDI note C#1, 'Snare Angel 1' is only assigned to MIDI note D1, etc.

    If you want to change the 'tuning' of any particular drum hit, notice the <Tune> knob just above the key range as shown.

    The last cell in the kit (Synth[140] G# Angel MSV) in this case will extend from it's first assigned note to the top of the keyboard (MIDI notes D#2 to G8).

    ALL Battery kits operate in this manner.

    If you wanted to take a tuned sample (ie: Vocal Angel, assigned to MIDI note C#2) and have it pitched to multiple notes on a scale, you would have to have that same sample loaded into multiple cells in Battery with each one assigned to a different MIDI note, and EACH sample cell pitched to your desired scale.

    [For example the Vocal Angel one shot sample is (on my machine) located in F:\NI Libraries\Lazer Dice\Samples\One Shots\Vocal\Vocal Angel.wav]

    That is probably not a subject for a new user at this time, but it is all covered in the operation manual for Battery 4. https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/drums/battery-4/downloads/

  • MrDoIt
    MrDoIt Member Posts: 7 Member

    Interesting. So there is no way in Battery 4 to take a sound and play it at any note like default simpler in Ableton? When you play the samples, they are using all kinds of different notes per sample. In fact, for this one, they have a full mellody when you listen to the sample.

  • Brad Yost
    Brad Yost Member Posts: 354 Pro
    edited June 2023

    Yes there is a way to create a kit with the same sample loaded in every cell, with each cell (MIDI note) pitched to any notes in any scale as I stated above, up to the maximum number of cells available. It is all covered in the manual.

    What you may be thinking of is similar to the "Sampler track" in Cubase, or the same thing can be done in Kontakt up to 88 notes.

  • MrDoIt
    MrDoIt Member Posts: 7 Member

    So are you saying I need to do this in Kontakt instead of Battery? Sorry, it's really confusing when the samples are showing multiple mellodies but loading the expansion is not showing the same thing.

  • Brad Yost
    Brad Yost Member Posts: 354 Pro
    edited June 2023

    I think you are confused. The video shows someone auditioning the sounds of Battery presets (left pane) of kits & expansions from within Komplete Kontrol that are available to load in Battery.

    Those previews ARE ONLY EXAMPLES of what all of the parts (cells played by MIDI notes) COULD sound like in a song snippet. That actual song snippet is not available in a cell in a kit that can be loaded into Battery. You have to create your own composition.

    You might want to start with some of these videos if reading the operations manual is too much;

    [https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvw8caaTyXjNtJXrq4L7L7fcSDIHxbzX3]

    And no, Battery has very little in common with the Sampler Track in Ableton or Cubase, etc.

  • MrDoIt
    MrDoIt Member Posts: 7 Member

    Thanks Brad.

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