Komplete Kontrol (software) window resize

Gob · 2023-04-28T19:56:34+00:00

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Hello!

I wonder if this has been brought up before...

I feel like it is unacceptable in this day and age that KK SW can not directly be resized by the user. If I load an instrument from Arturia e.g., I can resize the plugin and the KK window will follow. But I can't resize it myself. This suggests that the feature of resizing the window is already there, just not exposed to the user directly.

It's 2023. What excuse could NI possibly have to leave this functionality out? It really boggles my mind.

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Stephen Howe

I'm trying to use Battery inside Komplete Kontrol and I made the mistake of opening the preferences, which now can't be closed as the button is too far below the maximum window size and not scrollable. So I need to delete the track and start again. It starts to make the company and the developers look like a joke tbh. The product managers should be ashamed at this point.

nightjar

Hope there is a HUGE rethink of KK and not just an incremental change.

JesterMgee

Yep, I hear everyone here. It is like NI listen to everything we say, then open the window, push it all out to its death and decide on a new plan that no one asked for and no one wants. People need to speak up and maybe, just maybe if enough people all point to the same damn thing it might change. It's a stretch of a hope but we can dream of the day things are actually improved.

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/96458#Comment_96458

The irony is in KK3 you can actually see more samples now in the browser because you can resize the results list, but it's no longer possible to drag and drop them from the browser into Battery cells because NI made it so you can/t see the browser at the same time as the plugin and removed drag and drop. I think we have got across that this was a bad idea though so hopefully it will change.

Gob

I have two 1920x1080 displays, so high dpi is not something I would take advantage of.

Just to be clear, I'm not talking about scaling the window, I'm simply talking about resizing it. Just like you can with just about any window.

nightjar

So true, this is moving far too slow.

dasfliege

It's unacceptable that in a program like Battery it is not even possible anymore to easy browse through samples because the windows isn't able to display all the stuff. Common guys....

RedwardMc

Yes there’s a few feature requests here for high dpi displays, hopefully it will happen.

Kymeia

Longstanding FR - hopefully will come now VST3 etc are out of the way. In the meantime there's one workaround

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/11786/nipatcher-tool-to-modify-maschine-macos

Gob

I've had my fingers crossed for so many years that I can now only play Für Elise backwards. But I appreciate your optimism!

The tool looks really cool and I would've loved to try it out. I'm unfortunately on Windows. Thanks!

Vocalpoint

"I am sure that N.I. are aware of the wish for being able to re-size but I also think that they do not consider it crucial despite some people not being happy with it"

Correct - I am certain they are sick to death of this topic internally - but everyone who is asking for this (especially those wanting to "drag" the right-hand corner of the KK UI and resize it) fail to realize just what is going on inside that Komplete Kontrol UI window.

Remember that KK is a "container" for hosting a limitless array of VST instruments, FX and other stuff - ALL of which will need to properly "react" to someone wanting to "drag" that right hand corner to resize.

That means every vendor that has ever created a VST will need every part of their UI (Graphics, buttons, sliders etc) to properly react to each and every "drag" (bigger OR smaller) on the corner of the KK UI.

Take U-he's Zebra2 for example - when I load that VST into KK - the UI blows up to massive size to try and accommodate the massive UI that Zebra has - and no amount of scaling can fix that. That is one case where I would want to "reduce" the size of the KK window but really cannot.

So - (with the example above) - if this ever came to pass - I would be truly annoyed if I could only make the KK "window" frame bigger (or smaller) while all the rest of the "stuff" inside that window stays static and unsizable as it is now with Zebra. Ideally I need reduce the size of this window by say 40% - to make it usable - but that's impossible unless U-he rewrites the Zebra UI and that VST is already on its way out as of this writing.

So, think of this in those terms. Every vendor rewriting "their" UI to be fully flexible AND resizable when used within a KK parent window. That's the challenge to do this right.

Vocalpoint

Never going to happen.

Correct.

It is clear that sticking with this old school design "hosting a third-party plugin UI within another UI" - simply cannot ever be made resizable as NI is always at the mercy of someone else's old school plugin UI design.

The only way I could ever see a truly flexible "resizable" Komplete Kontrol - that would not only address the new VSTis coming out BUT also allow all these users that want to use some old VST from 2011 happy is to start over from scratch. What that looks like is mind boggling.

It's a no-win situation really.

Suggulent

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/96458#Comment_96458

That's all I want! A way to be able to read the presets. It's a complete disgrace that it was ever considered good enough to release like that, let alone be left like this for so long.

UrbanEric

Still no screen resize with KK v3? What the heck.

Well I guess the "fixed" the UI for Zebra 2 - now everything "fits" in a small window. SO rather than blow up the screen size and rescale, it actually shrinks Zebra down to a size so small it's almost unuseable.

With KK v3 the presets are like scrambled eggs. Jester warned about this and I am only getting around to checking it out now. It's embarrassingly bad. NI should be ashamed.

Kymeia

Zebra is still the default size I set it in KK3 for me, not seeing any shrinking any plugin windows on my Mac at least

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