Kontakt 7 Microtuning

HuChaaku

Well Native instruments removed micro tuning a fundamental function. Wonder is this end all be all. I would like them to add this feature back in a near future update.

Bummer

Gee_Flat

What a vague and obtuse comment. Explain.

How is it fundamental? I never use it, or am I unaware that it's an underlying element in the instruments I use?

meru_es

Explain.

Microtonal is just as fundamental to microtonal music composers as a guitar is for rock bands.

Regarding the OP, i assume they mean that Kontakt Factory Library 2 doesn't allow editing (presumably because Native UI is still in closed alpha), which incidentally makes it impossible to load the factory tuning scripts.

How is it fundamental? 

For anyone who relies on microtuning scripts (or any custom script at all for that matter), this is a major step backwards compared to the previous factory library (that is no longer obtainable from this website).

While 12-tone Equal Temperament is prevalent in Western music today... Music from the Renaissance and Baroque eras used meantone temperaments. Other cultures around the globe use radically different tunings (see Maqam, Carnatic music, Gamelan). Electronic music has allowed a lot of microtonal experimentation, from Wendy Carlos through Aphex Twin to the likes of Dolores Catherino and Zhea Erose, there certainly is a "xenharmonic" music scene. There's also other contemporaneous composers like Jacob Collier using just intonation in subtler ways.

In conclusion:

I absolutely agree with OP, tuning is fundamental to music and lack of control over it is a bummer. Specially for an instrument that is meant to be an universal sampler.

This is a problem with the new factory library, and all the the libraries that cannot be edited at all. It also is a problem with the libraries where inserting the microtuning script stops the instrument from making sounds - the least thing a musician wants to do mid-session is debugging a script.

I think microtonality (or in it's in absence, MPE to enable devices like Abletons' Microtuner and Bitwig's micropitch to work polyphonically) should be given more importance in the Kontakt ecosystem.

jwchamb

Tuning is a fascinating subject which seems to be largely ignored in Western music education. Did you ever wonder why there are 12 notes per octave? Why semitones are multiples of the 12th root of 2? Why the only interval that is perfectly in tune is the octave? Hint: not because it sounds good.

The harmonic structure of a given instrument can be different for each pitch it produces, as well as being different from other instruments that are sounding at the same time. Microtuning allows access to a wider pallet of of colors of consonance and dissonance. Tuning for a particular harmonic setting can improve the character of a piece of music. For non-western instruments or samples of things that are not normally used as instruments, microtuning can give a more vibrant, authentic, real sound, whereas 12-tET sounds artificial, flat, muzak-like.

Synthesizers and tuning software are actively being developed and available for download on the internet. Sadly NI seems to have chosen to remain ignorant of this aspect of music.

battaglia01

It still seems to work here and I'm on NI 7. What has changed? Is the problem that the factory library doesn't let you use scripts?

For those asking why this is important: gee I dunno, one reason is that not having it is a big "f you" to literally all of the Middle East? This isn't "niche" "experimental" music - go turn on Arab Idol and listen to what they're playing for a few minutes. Without microtuning support you literally can't play any of the music on there in Kontakt. Basically a giant middle finger to 400 million people who all grew up listening to this kind of stuff, and all the musicians from there.